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	<title>Comments on: PCI QSA Goodness</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Agcaoili</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I completely agree with this post. 

Where to begin with this post Chris? I&#039;ll paraphrase the gems that resonate with me:

&quot;My biggest frustration is when you cannot get a clear answer from an assessor on complex scenarios and complex technologies...

...QSAs that actually know technology, understand security controls, are able to contextualize a security control as applied to a technology, and are willing to tell you that you are either right or wrong – not some of this wishy-washy, not willing to take a side approach that leaves as much uncertainty about a scenario then when you first started seeking feedback.

...know technology and security at a very granular level; to an extent most reasonable folks would not anticipate. The reason this is important is because it helps with understanding the intent of some of the PCI-DSS requirements as well leveraging compensating controls when there may be a gap.&quot;


We&#039;ve cycled through this experience as well. Being able to cut through the ambiguity and clearly address the heart of the matter has eased our approach significantly when dealing with the so-called &quot;score keepers&quot; in our environment. 

It&#039;s interesting how simple philosophies, even discussed back in the early 90&#039;s, like network segmentation (or the politically correct term &quot;zoning&quot;) has been so difficult to achieve by many.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I completely agree with this post. </p>
<p>Where to begin with this post Chris? I&#8217;ll paraphrase the gems that resonate with me:</p>
<p>&#8220;My biggest frustration is when you cannot get a clear answer from an assessor on complex scenarios and complex technologies&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;QSAs that actually know technology, understand security controls, are able to contextualize a security control as applied to a technology, and are willing to tell you that you are either right or wrong – not some of this wishy-washy, not willing to take a side approach that leaves as much uncertainty about a scenario then when you first started seeking feedback.</p>
<p>&#8230;know technology and security at a very granular level; to an extent most reasonable folks would not anticipate. The reason this is important is because it helps with understanding the intent of some of the PCI-DSS requirements as well leveraging compensating controls when there may be a gap.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve cycled through this experience as well. Being able to cut through the ambiguity and clearly address the heart of the matter has eased our approach significantly when dealing with the so-called &#8220;score keepers&#8221; in our environment. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how simple philosophies, even discussed back in the early 90&#8242;s, like network segmentation (or the politically correct term &#8220;zoning&#8221;) has been so difficult to achieve by many.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hayes</title>
		<link>http://risktical.com/2008/12/18/pci-qsa-goodness/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Hayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rafal - Thanks for the comment. I expected there would be a few that question the motives of the post - I am just giving a plug to PSC. It&#039;s nice to give props once in awhile. If you inferred that I have complete trust in them - that is wrong - trust is earned and validated over time. But from what little interaction I have had with them I have a high level of confidence in their abilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rafal &#8211; Thanks for the comment. I expected there would be a few that question the motives of the post &#8211; I am just giving a plug to PSC. It&#8217;s nice to give props once in awhile. If you inferred that I have complete trust in them &#8211; that is wrong &#8211; trust is earned and validated over time. But from what little interaction I have had with them I have a high level of confidence in their abilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal</title>
		<link>http://risktical.com/2008/12/18/pci-qsa-goodness/#comment-157</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.

@Chris... 
 -- that&#039;s either the most ringing endorsement ever, or a PSA (or maybe a paid advertisement).  You&#039;re spot-on with the QSA comments, and I&#039;ve actually seen companies choose the *least competent* ones possible to get away with as much as possible... which sounds right, doesn&#039;t it?  To find some group you&#039;re comfortable with is good... to know they&#039;re doing a great job is better - to have the complete trust you have in PSC... that&#039;s unheard of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>@Chris&#8230;<br />
 &#8212; that&#8217;s either the most ringing endorsement ever, or a PSA (or maybe a paid advertisement).  You&#8217;re spot-on with the QSA comments, and I&#8217;ve actually seen companies choose the *least competent* ones possible to get away with as much as possible&#8230; which sounds right, doesn&#8217;t it?  To find some group you&#8217;re comfortable with is good&#8230; to know they&#8217;re doing a great job is better &#8211; to have the complete trust you have in PSC&#8230; that&#8217;s unheard of.</p>
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